Projects/Active

Nonchromate Primer for
Aircraft Exteriors

(Boeing Military Aircraft and Missile Systems Group)
Project Number: J-95-OC-002

Meeting and Teleconference Summaries

The Meeting and Teleconference Summaries contains basic information about this project and a summary paragraph from each meeting or teleconference held for this project.


Contractor: B-A&M

Potential Programs/Owners:
AV-B, C-17, C-130, F-15, F/A-18, Harpoon/SLAM, T-45 TS

Material(s) Targeted for Reduction/Elimination:
Chromium (chromate primers)

Phase(s) in Methodology:
IV, Demonstration/Validation



Milestones and Prior Decisions:

  • Participants defined testing requirements and documented them in a non-JG-PP format Test Plan.
  • Participants selected nonchromate primers for laboratory testing.
  • Participants completed laboratory testing and selected two nonchromate primers (Dexter 10PW22-2/ ECW-119 and PRC-DeSoto EWAE118 A/B) for operational testing.
  • Operational testing activities began in spring of 1997.
  • In September 1999, participants agreed to extend operational testing into 2001.

Date of last meeting: January 29-31, 2002 at Tyndall, AFB, FL
Next scheduled meeting: None

Meeting and Teleconference Summaries:

On 29-30 January 2002, a technical meeting was held to discuss the decisions made by the Navy, and Air Force Systems Program Offices and MAJCOM users on the implementation of nonchromate primer. Mr. Triplett, Boeing-St Louis, lead the discussion of the final report on operational testing. All of the participants were brought up-to-date with the testing. Other areas briefed and discussed were the Navy's status of implementation, review of the primer specification, review of the cost benefit analysis (CBA), NASA's replacement of Alodine and Deft coatings on solid rocket boosters (SRB) hardware, and CTC's testing of coupons for NASA coating systems. Most of the participants also went on a flight line tour of the aircraft used in the testing that were based at Tyndall AFB.

On April 17-18 2001, a technical/business meeting was held to discuss the JG-PP Nonchromate Primer Project. Mr. Triplett, Boeing-St Louis, lead the discussion of the operational testing. All the participants were brought up-to-date on the status of the testing. Discussions covered implementation issues and pending changes to OSHA standards for Hexavalent Chrome. The meeting was concluded with arrangements made for the final meeting where the implementation decisions would be made. This meeting is tentatively scheduled for 29-30 Jan 02 at Tyndall AFB. The Air Force would host the meeting. Click on one of the presentaions below for more information:

On January 24, 2001 the JG-PP Nonchromated Primer Project Technical Teleconference started at 1400 ET. Technical representatives from AFRL, The Boeing Company in Long Beach and St. Louis, C-17, F-15, HQ AFMC/A4BE, JASPPA, NASA, NAVAIR, NAWCAD - Patuxent River, NAWCWPN - China Lake, Northrup Grummund, Veridian - Pax River, and WPAFB participated in the teleconference. Mr. Gerard "Jerry" Mongelli took roll call then began the meeting by introducing himself and explaining that the JG-PP principals had decided the Air Force would help the Navy finish the project. At this time, the project is at the end of the flight test program. Our office (HQ AFMC/A4BE) will be sending forward all reports as they are received. Mr. Mongelli then turned the meeting over to Mr. Larry Triplett, Boeing, St Louis, who gave an overview of each aircraft on which the down selected primers are being tested. Mr. Mongelli later discussed the proposed meeting being hosted by Boeing, St Louis, to discuss technical and business strategies. The final area of discussion was monthly teleconferences. It was decided that a teleconference would be set up when something significant happens instead of holding one on a monthly basis. The teleconference was concluded at 1500 ET.

On May 18, 2000, technical representatives from Air Force Air Mobility Command, AFRL, the NASA, NAVAIR, NADEP - North Island, California, and the DCMA participated in a teleconference with representatives from the Boeing Company and the JASPPA. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss the status of operational testing of nonchromate primers. A number of action items were closed and no new action items were assigned. A NAVAIR technical team has participated in recent inspections of F/A-18s. Two new F-15s and one C-130 have been incorporated into the testing. Activities continue to apply nonchromate primer to a C-17 for the operational testing; it is expected that this will occur in mid-summer 2000.

On November 23, 1999, technical representatives from AFMC, AFRL, C-17, F-15, F/A-18, the NASA, NASC, NAWCAD - Patuxent River, NADEP-JAX, NADEP - North Island, California, and the DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from the Boeing Company and the JASPPA. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing and implementation of nonchromate primers. A number of action items were closed. Extended operational testing of nonchromate primers will include continued monitoring of F-15s, F/A-18s, and T-45 TSs currently involved. In addition, it is intended that two more F-15s, one C-130, and one C-17 will be incorporated into the testing. Application of nonchromate primer to the "new" test aircraft should be accomplished during normally scheduled repaint operations. All operational testing should be complete by the end of 2001, at which time a decision on the use of nonchromate primers on existing aircraft and at the Boeing manufacturing facility in St. Louis will be made. No new nonchromate primers will be incorporated into the operational testing; only PRC DeSoto EWAE118 and Dexter 10PW22-2/ECW-119 waterborne nonchromate primers will be used for operational testing in this project.

On September 1, 1999, technical representatives from AFRL, C-17, F-15, F/A-18, NASC, NAWCAD - Patuxent River, , NAWCWPN - China Lake, NADEP-JAX, NADEP - North Island, and the DCMC met with representatives from the Boeing Company and the JASPPA at Boeing in St. Louis, Missouri. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing and implementation of nonchromate primers. The performance of the nonchromate primers is similar to the performance of chromate primers, although some adhesion failures of waterborne nonchromate primer to titanium surfaces have occurred. The participants also discussed related testing being performed by Boeing, related testing being performed outside the scope of this JG-PP project, plans for future implementation of nonchromate primers, and requirements for demonstrating technical acceptability of nonchromate primers. The participants agreed to extend operational testing of Dexter/Crown Metro (hereafter referred to as Dexter) 10PW22-2/ECW-119 (Type I) and PRC DeSoto (formerly known as Courtaulds/Spraylat; the name change is due to consolidation of businesses within the aerospace coatings industry) EWAE118 (Type II) waterborne nonchromate primers. A number of action items were assigned to support the decision to extend testing; operational testing is to end no later than December 2001.

On October 6, 1998, technical and business representatives from F/A-18, NAVAIR, - NAWCAD Patuxent River , NADEP-JAX, NADEP North Island, and the DCMC met with representatives from the Boeing Company and the JPPAB at Boeing in St. Louis, Missouri. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing and implementation of nonchromate primers. The performance of the nonchromate primers is similar to the performance of chromate primers, although some adhesion failures of waterborne nonchromate primer to titanium surfaces have occurred. The participants also discussed related testing being performed by Boeing, plans for future implementation of nonchromate primers, and other pollution prevention projects of interest to Boeing.

On July 22, 1998, technical and business representatives from F-15, F/A-18, the JDEP, NAVAIR, NADEP - Cherry Point , NADEP North Island, ARFL, and the DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from the Boeing Company and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing and implementation of nonchromate primers. It was reported that operational testing is proceeding on schedule, and no significant differences between the performance of the nonchromate primers and the performance of chromate primers have been observed. One action item, to identify points of contact to authorize process changes allowing the use of nonchromate primers at the maintenance depots (AI MD.98.01.01), was completed and closed. No new action items were assigned.

On April 29, 1998, technical and business representatives from F-15, NAVAIR, NADEP - Cherry Point, NADEP - North Island , ARFL, and the DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from the Boeing Company and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing and implementation of nonchromate primers. It was reported that operational testing is proceeding on schedule, and no significant changes of the primer coating on the test aircraft have been observed since the last inspection. One action item, to identify points of contact to assist in tracking test aircraft (AI MD.97.09.03), was closed. No new action items were assigned.

On February 25, 1998, technical and business representatives from NAVAIR, NADEP - Cherry Point, NADEP - North Island, AFRL - Materials Laboratory , and the DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from the B-A&M unit and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing and implementation of nonchromate primers. Four action items were closed, and a new action item, MD.98.02.01, was assigned to the JPPAB to address the issue to coordinate information sharing and process changes with the Sustainment Community, in preparation of successful completion of the operational testing.

On January 23, 1998, technical and business representatives from F-15, F/A-18, NAVAIR, OO-ALC, AFRL – Materials Laboratory, Lockheed Martin, ASC/EM, and the DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from the B-A&M unit and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing and implementation of nonchromate primers. No action items were closed, and a new action item, MD.98.01.01, was assigned to the defense system representatives, to identify the individual(s) responsible for specific approval process(es) required to implement nonchromate primers at the appropriate government maintenance facilities (depots).

On September 3, 1997, representatives from C-17, F-15, F/A-18, WR-ALC, Wright Laboratories, NAVAIR, ASC/EM, and the DCMC participated in a meeting with representatives from the B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the meeting was to review the status of the nonchromate primers project at B-A&M, and discuss issues that may affect implementation of nonchromate primers, possible future JG-APP projects at B-A&M, and details of planned efforts for operational testing of selected nonchromate primers. Action items MD.97.05.03, MD.97.06.01, MD.97.06.02, MD.97.06.03, and MD.97.07.01 were closed. The availability of C-17 panels for additional operational testing will be investigated (AI MD.97.09.01). The results of laboratory testing will be published on the JG-APP Website, but products that were not chosen for operational testing will not be identified by name in any published reports. All participating weapon systems will work to identify issues that may affect implementation of nonchromate primers (AI MD.97.09.02). Each participating weapon system will endeavor to identify appropriate point(s) of contact to help coordinate activities and information for operational testing of nonchromate primers (AI MD.97.09.03).

On July 23, 1997, representatives from WR-ALC, Wright Laboratories, NAVAIR, Armstrong Laboratories (AL/EQL-OL), and the ASC participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to operational testing of nonchromate primers. No action items were closed. A new action item was assigned to provide a report on the first nonchromate primer application to an F-15. Another new action item was assigned to clarify the preparation techniques to be used for primer application to F/A-18 aircraft for operational testing.

On June 25, 1997, technical and business representatives from C-17, F-15, F/A-18, T-45 TS, NAVAIR, NADEP-JAX, and ASC participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to operational testing of nonchromate primers. No action items were closed, and no new action items were assigned. The participants briefly discussed a method of funding any repainting of F-15s that may be reuired if the nonchromate primer does not perform well.

On June 11, 1997, technical and business representatives from C-17, T-45 TS, NAVAIR, and ASC/EME participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to operational testing of nonchromate primers. The group discussed the schedule for painting both F-15 and F/A-18 aircraft being used for operational testing, and assigned a new action item identifying when the F/A-18s will be available. Mr. Mike Rudy, NAVAIR, reported that funding for F/A-18 operational testing has been released to NADEP - North Island. Ms. Jean Hawkins, T-45 TS, reported the MER is complete and will allow use of nonchromate primer for touch-up on T-45 TS. The participants also discussed the plans for future operational testing efforts.

On May 21, 1997, technical and business representatives from F-15, F/A-18, AFMC, ASC/EME, AL/EQL-OL, NADEP North Island, and DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss issues relating to the operational testing of nonchromate primers. The group discussed the schedule for painting the F-15 aircraft being used for the operational testing, and assigned an action item to confirm the dates. An action item addressing the funding for the F/A-18 operational testing was also assigned. Mr. Larry Triplett, B-A&M, reported that paperwork that will allow use of nonchromate primer for touch-up on T-45 TS aircraft has been initiated.

On April 10, 1997, technical representatives from AV-8B, C-17, T-45 TS, F-15, F/A-18, AFMC, ASC/EM, the NAWC, and DCMC participated in a meeting with representatives from B-A&M. The purpose of the meeting was to choose one or two nonchromate primers for use in operational testing, based on the results of laboratory testing. Two primers were chosen for operational testing: Crown Metro Aerospace 10PW22-2/ECW-119 (Type I) and Spraylat EWAE118 A/B (Type II). The Crown Metro product, which exhibited the best overall performance of the nonchromate primers tested, will be applied to the Harpoon canisters and used for touch-up on T-45 TS. The Spraylat product will be applied to the AV-8B and to at least the first four F/A-18s that are painted as part of the operational testing. The Spraylat product was chosen for these aircraft because the Navy currently requires Type II primers in this application, and because the Spraylat product performed much better than the Crown Metro product in high temperature exposure laboratory tests. Type I and Type II primers have different requirements for IR reflectance. Based on the results of IR reflectance measurements currently being made on Type I and Type II primers for one of the affected programs, a decision may be made to use the Crown Metro (Type I) product on the last four F/A-18s. The F-15 program deferred decision on the application of a nonchromate primer to F-15s in the operational testing; the F-15 program will provide a decision within a week of the April 10, 1997 meeting. All open action items were closed and no new action items were assigned.

On April 7, 1997, business and technical representatives from AV-8B, T-45 TS, F-15, F/A-18, AL/EQL-OL, ASC/EM, DCMC, and NADEP - JAX, participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to discuss the results of laboratory testing on nonchromate primers. These results had been previously distributed to the participants. No new action items were assigned, and no decisions were made.

On March 5, 1997, business and technical representatives from T-45 TS, F-15, F/A-18, NAVAIR, AL/EQL-OL, ASC/EME, and DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to review action items from previous meetings, discuss the schedule for painting the F/A-18 aircraft involved in the project, and discuss contract efforts concerning the project. All open action items were discussed. Two action items were closed and no new action items were established.

On January 29, 1997, business and technical representatives from T-45 TS, F-15, F/A-18, NAVAIR, AL/EQL-OL, ASC/EME, and DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to review action items from previous meetings, discuss the schedule for painting of aircraft involved in the project, discuss cost sharing and contract efforts concerning the JG-APP project and to disseminate information among participants. All open action items were discussed. One new action item was established, to discuss the environmental, safety, and occupational health analyses being performed as part of the initiative.

On January 8, 1997, business and technical representatives from F-15, F/A-18, T-45 TS, NAVAIR, AL/EQL-OL, and ASC/EME participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to review action items from previous meetings, review the cost adjudication, and disseminate information among participants. All open action items were discussed, no action items were closed during the teleconference and two new action items were established. The status of the schedule for painting F/A-18 aircraft was discussed along with B-A&M flight test proposal status.

On December 13, 1996, business and technical representatives from T-45 TS, NAVAIR, and DCMC participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to review pending action items, discuss the cost sharing and contract efforts concerning the JG-APP project and to disseminate information among participants. All open action items were discussed resulting in two open action items being closed. No new action items were established. The group discussed the painting schedule for the F/A-18 aircraft, the cost adjudication and life cycle cost savings within the project.

On December 12, 1996, business and technical representatives from F-15, NAVAIR, T-45 TS, NASA, NADEP North Island, DCMC, NAWC, and ASC/EME participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to review the status of laboratory testing of candidate nonchromate primers. The group verified that laboratory testing was scheduled to be complete in late March 1997, and confirmed that the first F-15 for the operational testing will be available for painting on May 5, 1997.

On November 22, 1996, business and technical representatives from C-17, F-15, NAVAIR, and ASC/EME participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to review action items from previous meetings, discuss current topics concerning the JG-APP project, and disseminate information among participants. All open action items were discussed, and one new action item was established. The group discussed the status of the cost adjudication.

On November 8, 1996, business and technical representatives from C-17, F-15, T-45 TS, NAVAIR, and ASC/EME participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The purpose of the teleconference was to review action items from previous meetings, discuss new events and disseminate information among participants. All open action items were discussed, three action items were closed during the teleconference and two new action items were established. A status of the testing was presented.

On October 24, 1996, business and technical representatives from C-17, NAVAIR, and ASC/EME participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The objective was to review action items from previous business meetings and disseminate new information among participants. All open action items were discussed and one action item was closed during the teleconference.

On October 9, 1996, business and technical representatives from F-15, T-45 TS, NAVAIR, Boeing Defense and Space Group (Comanche), and ASC/EME participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The objective was to review action items from previous business meetings. All open action items were discussed and five were closed during the teleconference. The representatives discussed the difficulty of obtaining authorization for use of an F/A-18 contract vehicle for the operational testing.

On September 18, 1996, business and technical representatives from F-15, C-17, F/A-18, T-45 TS, and NAVAIR Contracts participated in a teleconference with representatives from B-A&M and the JPPAB. The focus of the teleconference was to establish better communication and dissemination of information among project participants. The objective was to review action items from the August 27, 1996 business meeting. All nine action items were discussed and four were closed during the teleconference. Information was provided by the technical representatives concerning the substitution of one new potential alternative for one existing alternative in the project.

On August 27, 1996, a business strategy meeting was held at B-A&M , St. Louis, MO. Representatives from F-15, C-17, F/A-18, T-45 TS, ASC/EME, NAVAIR SYSCOM, NADEP - North Island, B-A&M , DCMC, and the JPPAB participated. The group agreed to fund laboratory testing for three additional alternatives to the already down-selected six alternatives. It was also agreed that all nine alternatives (the six down-selected and the three new) would undergo the complete testing as required in the JTP. The C-17 program will fund the cost for additional laboratory testing and add it to the existing contract vehicle. The F/A-18 program agreed to provide the contract vehicle for the B-A&M support of flight/field test and the Navy agreed to pursue funding sources.

On August 12, 1996, a technical meeting was held at B-A&M , St. Louis, MO. Technical Representatives from F-15, C-17, F/A-18, T-45 TS, NAWC, NADEP JAX, NADEP - North Island, B-A&M , DCMC, and the JPPAB participated. The group agreed to remove some candidate nonchromate primers from further consideration at this time. Testing will continue on six nonchromate primers. Two paint manufacturers will be asked to submit samples of new nonchromate primers they have been developing; these products will be tested according to the entire JTP. One paint manufacturer will be given the opportunity to submit a modified version of their product, which had exhibited poor sprayability properties during testing by B-A&M.

On May 30, 1996, representatives from the B-A&M , ASC/EMV, and NADEP JAX met at the NAWCAD - Pawtuxent River , MD, to review and discuss the nonchromate primer effort. The results of tests performed by NAWC on 13 nonchromate primers as part of the B-A&M JG-APP pilot effort were presented. All 13 products failed 2,000-hour salt spray tests, and all but two failed filiform corrosion tests. Two products failed SO2 salt spray tests.

On January 25, 1996, the third business strategy meeting was held. Technical Representatives from F-15, C-17, F/A-18, T-45, Harpoon/SLAM, AV-8B, B-A&M , DCMC, and JPPAB participated. It was agreed that the JG-APP program would provide $400,000 for laboratory testing, and the Air Force and the Navy would each provide $376,500 for laboratory testing, to cover the total cost of $1,153,000. The group further agreed that the cost of operational testing would be considered in the future, after laboratory testing was completed. A number of possible contract vehicles for execution of the SOT were discussed, but no decision was made.

On November 28, 1995, the second business strategy meeting was held. Technical Representatives from F-15, C-17, F/A-18, T-45 TS, Harpoon/SLAM, AV-8B, B-A&M , DCMC, and the JPPAB participated. The group discussed the ROM costs for the SOT/JTP; B-A&M costs were projected to be $1.25 million. The participants reached a consensus on recommended cost share ratios, and buy-in from the affected programs was to be sought before the January 25, 1996 meeting. For the business approach, a DCMC administered contract had the greatest support, but the legality of this alternative must be examined by DCMC. Concerns were expressed about life testing, because some of the applications are expected to perform for six years. The general consensus was that a single year of testing could be assumed to guarantee performance for six years, but the F-15 program found this unacceptable.

On October 25, 1995, a technical teleconference was held to finalize details of the SOT/JTP. Signatures from the affected program managers were requested by November 21, 1995.

On September 8, 1995, a teleconference was conducted. Consensus was reached on technically acceptable testing facilities. Provisions for duplication of laboratory tests were removed from the SOT. No separate JTP exists, so all further references will be to the SOT/JTP. Stress Corrosion and Hydrogen Embrittlement Tests were added to the SOT/JTP. NDCEE was added as a recipient of all deliverables in the SOT/JTP.

On August 24, 1995, the first business strategy meeting was held. It was agreed that program managers would provide estimates of production implementation costs for changing to nonchromate primers for outer mold line applications.

On August 1, 1995, a teleconference was held to discuss the draft JTP. Some additions were agreed upon, and plans were made to finalize the JTP by September 22, 1995.

On June 12, 1995, a teleconference was held to discuss tests included in the JTP.

On May 4-5, 1995, the acquisition managers, the contractor, and the JPPAB representatives met to choose a single opportunity from four candidate opportunities. They selected chromium, with chromate primers for outer mold line applications as the targeted material. MEK was discussed as a promising candidate for reduction/elimination, but it was determined that MEK reduction only required approval from one weapon program, so the JG-APP process was not necessary. Acquisition managers agreed to have their technical and engineering staffs evaluate operational requirements. Acquisition managers planned to submit draft test protocol(s) to be consolidated by B-A&M into a JTP for qualification of nonchromate primer alternatives.

On March 30, 1995, representatives from DoD and B-A&M met with Major General Bridges to select HazMats for further evaluation and possible reduction/elimination. The hazardous materials to be further investigated were chromium, cadmium, methylene chloride, and MEK.

 

 

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